In early May, Ellen spoke with Gigi Hepp about why financial resilience matters. They recorded their chat in Sāo Paulo at the Amani Institute where Ellen had just taught a course in their award-winning Social Innovation Management program.
Find out how a bicycle is like a social justice organization and hear Ellen's perspective on our relationship with money - a topic she has explored extensively in her work supporting civil society organizations on their journey to financial resilience.
We hope you find it inspiring.
Photo by Celsa Calderoni, @CamaroniProduce